Monday, October 18, 2004

Gorgeous Flyer


I'd love to see the above reproduced. The colors in these two sets are just beautiful. The shine really hasn't left these sets, even after almost 75 years. I've seen both of these sets at shows in the $4k range. I'd actually like to get these with newer electronics in the engine (like a Pittman motor).

Any thoughts? Posted by Hello

5 comments:

Gilbert Ives said...

MTH made these. Mountaineer with orange gondola and blue tank in 2002 Vol.II. I saw Pocahontas at pre-York Holidome Oct. 2002, though I can't seem to find in catalog. If you do advance search "tinplate" line enter 4637, photo shows cars as well.

Gilbert Ives said...

I keep asking MTH to run the 1929 IVES versions of the Flyer freights. The caboose is a real Knock-out in the three IVES colors as opposed to the all-red AF. And I do love the brass-journal IVES trucks. AF was much closer to the "IVES Character" than the Market Leader which is why the 1930 freights look ridiculous in comparison.

Standard Gauge Blogger said...

I don't think MTH called it a Pocahontas, I think they called it the Legonairre.

Elmo Gibb said...

I agree that these trains are beautiful. I have a Mill Shops 2-6-0 Mogul with matching 3 coaches. The engine has a Pitmann motor. It runs very quietly and smoothly. It clips along at a medium speed with just the tender, slower with one coach, much slower with two coaches and barely can move with all three coaches. My Lionel 385-E with Standard motor can pull 12 empty gondolas without breaking a sweat and my AF 4692 with` it's original engine does the same. The Pittmann motor doesn't allow the engine to coast at all, either. It just slams to a halt the moment the juice is off.

Gilbert Ives said...

31 Oct. -- Re: 'Pocahontas'

As it says in that book on the Vickers Coll.: "Although these three sets may appear identical at first glance..." [TTTvol1., p.107]. 'Legionnaire', "Short-car 'Legionnaire'", and 'Pocahontas' apppear together in full-color splendor. Lionel should have produced a "Junior" 'Blue Comet' -- 392 & big tender w/ 'Liberty Bell' cars [nickel-trim, of course]. Are you listening MTH?